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EXCERPTS FROM THE TRIAL TRANSCRIPT OF PEOPLE V. MOSELEY
June 9, 1964





[Cross examination of the defendant, Winston Moseley, by Assistant District Attorney, Mr. Cacciatore:]

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Q. Now, as the girl got out of the car in the parking lot and went --- And we are talking about March the 13th. Do you recall that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Now, when I say March 13th to you, does that bring to mind the experience you had?
A. Yes, it does.
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Q. Now you got out of the car, right?
A. Right.
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Q. Now, as she got out, she looked in your direction, you say?
A. That's right.
Q. And so you followed this woman?
A. Yes.
Q. Did she run or did she walk?
A. She ran.
Q. She what?
A. She ran.
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Q. And as she ran, did you run?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And you ran after her and caught her someplace on Austin Street?
A. That's right.
Q. Past the parking lot, right?
A. Past the parking lot.
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Q. Now, did you notice a light, a pole with a light directly at the spot where you caught up with her?
A. I didn't notice at the time, no.
Q. But there was a light?
A. There was a light.
Q. And as you caught up to her, you stabbed her?
A. That's right.
Q. Once?
A. Twice.
Q. Twice?
The Witness: (Nods head.)
Q. Now, as you were running after this woman, did you take the knife out of your pocket?
A. I had the knife out of my pocket when I came into the parking lot.
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Q. And then as you approached her, you stabbed her twice in the back?
The Witness: Right.
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Q. Well now, after the second stab, did she go down?
A. She did. Yes, she did.
Q. How did she go down, on her hands and knees? Flat on her face? Flat on her back? How?
A. I don't recall exactly how she fell.
Q. Was it simultaneous with her yelling and screaming that she fell down?
A. It was simultaneously with the second time that I hit her with the knife.
Q. And was there yelling from the window?
A. Somebody did yell from the window, yes.
Q. And you said that the voice sounded like that of a man.
A. That's right.
Q. "Leave that girl alone. Stop doing what you're doing," or words to that effect. Isn't that what you heard?
A. Something similar to that.
Q. Something like that. Now, when you heard that, you became frightened, huh?
A. Yes, startled.
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Q. And so what do you do?
A. I went back to my car to move it.
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Q. You backed it out of Austin Street into 82nd Avenue or 82nd ---
The Court: Road.
Q. Road, isn't it?
A. Yes.
Q. You went up the block quite a bit, didn't you?
A. Half-way.
Q. And that's quite a long block, isn't it, between Kew Gardens Road and Austin street?
A. It seems to be.
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The Court: Tell me, was this a cold night?
A. It was fairly cold.
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Q. So that you came back, you said, to finish what you had set out to do?
A. That's right.
Q. What?
A. That's right.
Q. Now, you went to the train station?
A. Yes, I did.
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Q. And so you came back and you looked for her?
A. Right.
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Q. Now you did arrive at this doorway where you saw the girl lying on the ground, on the floor of the hallway; isn't that so?
The Witness: That's right.
Q. Pretty narrow hallway, wasn't it?
A. Fairly narrow.
Q. And she started to scream, right?
The Witness: Right.
Q. And as she started to scream, you stabbed her, didn't you?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. You stabbed her in the throat?
A. Right.